DBTB Episode 85: Emily Vides and Mike Patterson of Small Change Brewing

Mike Patterson and Emily Vides are the couple behind of Small Change brewing in Massachusetts. The contract brewery turned three earlier this month and in the time it has been distributing beer it has gained a strong reputation for reliable and flavorful ales, including styles that are often overlooked, like milds. 

It’s a story of a homebrewer who went pro, but also of collaboration, artistic expression, communication, music, and harmony. From navigating the pandemic and customer interaction over zoom, to thinking about how can labels are really like album cover art, spend some time with this Massachusetts-based brewery that is doing its part to add to the beer industry. 

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